FBI Was Searching for ‘Doomsday Prepper’ Who Neighbors Say Has ‘Views That Are Different From Other People’
Martin Winters
The FBI is searching for a Florida man, described as a “doomsday prepper,” who fled from agents on Monday.
"AND I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR FLEEING! IF THE FBI IS GOING TO COME AFTER YOU FOR SIMPLY BEING A "Prepper" RIGHT THERE TELLS YOU THAT THE FBI IS NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF TYRANTS. YOU CAN'T TRUST AGENTS LIKE THE FBI ! FOR ALL THIS GUY KNOWS THEY WERE COMING TO USE THE NDAA ON HIM!"
"AND I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR FLEEING! IF THE FBI IS GOING TO COME AFTER YOU FOR SIMPLY BEING A "Prepper" RIGHT THERE TELLS YOU THAT THE FBI IS NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF TYRANTS. YOU CAN'T TRUST AGENTS LIKE THE FBI ! FOR ALL THIS GUY KNOWS THEY WERE COMING TO USE THE NDAA ON HIM!"
According to WTVT-TV, Martin Winters took off in his car and is later thought to have gone on foot in Lithia, Florida, a Tampa suburb, after FBI agents approached him with a search warrant
"YOU DO NOT GIVE OUT A "search warrant" FOR SIMPLY STOCKING UP ON FOOD, WATER ETC "prepping". AND FOR HAVING Views That Are Different From Other People!!"
Previously, Winters allegedly told an undercover agent he had built illegal weapons
"ILLEGAL WEAPONS?? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGAL WEAPONS ONLY ILLEGAL LAWS! IF YOUR AN AMERICAN CITIZEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!"
and made concerning comments about how he planned to use them.
"CONCERNING COMMENTS??? WHAT A JOKE PEOPLE!!! I REALLY HOPE YOU SEE THE PROPAGANDA IN ALL THIS!"
The FBI said that these weapons were not properly registered as required by U.S. law.
"LOL!!! not properly registered GUN REGISTRATION IS THE FIRST STEP TO CONFISCATION DO NOT BE FOOLED WHEN THEY SAY "US LAW" HAHAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE!
LETS REMIND THEM WHAT THE US LAW IS!!!!!!!
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Vincent Bernard, who rents property from Winters told WTVT he thinks “Marty is a good guy.”
“He has views that are different from other people,” Bernard told the news station of the man said to lead the group River Otter Preppers. “He loves God. I know that he reads a lot of Book of Revelations.”
John Kuntz, a friend of Winters, told the Tampa Tribune Winters is “a civic kind of leader and a helper his whole life in that neighborhood.”
Casey Kendall, who also rents from Witners, told WTVT she thinks he is a good man as well.
“He puts out produce every week for the people in need. He’s tremendously helped us out,” Kendall said.
Kendall and her boyfriend Jason Swain — who was later arrested along with a few other group members were stopped by agents at gunpoint while in their car with three children earlier this week.
Their home rented from Winters was raided by the FBI, according to WTSP-TV, with agents taking shell casing and mail.
"RAIDED!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? THEY ARE GOING TO FORCE AMERICANS TO DEFEND THEM SELF & THE SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION IS ON THE HORIZON IF THEY KEEP THIS UP."
“They weren’t going to find anything anyways. I’m not hiding nothing. What am I supposed to be hiding?” Kendall told WTSP.
David Couvetier with the FBI said talking about ideas isn’t the issue.
“Those are things protected by the Constitution just for that purpose, but when they start breaking the law to carry out those ideologies, philosophies, that’s when we step in, particularly when it has the potential to endanger public safety,” Couvetier said at a press conference.
" breaking the law, THEY ARE NOT BREAKING THE LAW!! THE FBI/ Government ARE THE ONES BREAKING THE LAW BY GOING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION!"
"public safety, THEY/FBI ARE THE ONES ENDANGERING public safety!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
"public safety, THEY/FBI ARE THE ONES ENDANGERING public safety!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
The FBI alleged that Martin and others in the group had been stockpiling arms and also set traps on his property.
"IT'S HIS PROPERTY HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS ON IT!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE NO LONGER A FREE COUNTRY PEOPLE!!!!!"
According to the FBI, the group is preparing for “an end-of-times event as prophesied by the Book of Revelations.”
To an undercover agent, Martin allegedly said ”it’ll be worse than Waco” and “kill them all,” according to WTVT. Kuntz though told the Tampa Tribune he doesn’t believe Winters would threaten to shoot government agents.
"BUT YOUR GOING TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DEFEND THEM-SELF WHEN YOU RAID PEOPLES HOMES OVER PREPPING & OVER TALKS ABOUT Waco, GOD & Revelations etc, PEOPLE THIS IS "THOUGHTCRIME" YOU KNOW JUST LIKE THE MOVIE 1984/George Orwell!!! AND YOU DO NOT raid PEOPLE FOR exercising the second amendment!!"
“That just ain’t the man I know,” Kuntz said. “They’d have to play me a tape of that before I’d buy it.”
Couvertier though told the newspaper the charges have nothing to do with the group’s views toward the government, "YA RIGHT!!!!!"
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but are a result of the booby traps and laws broken with possession of firearms that led to this.
THAT IS THE RESULT THAT LED TO THIS??? WHAT A JOKE!!! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE OUTRAGED!! THIS IS 100% PROOF THAT THE FBI/ U.S. Government AND ALL THE OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES AND DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVEL ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL TYRANTS!!!
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“He is making this more than it is,” Couvertier told the Tampa Tribune.
"NO YOU GUYS/FBI ARE THE ONES MAKING THIS MORE THEN WHAT IT IS! AND IT IS RIDICULOUSLY OBVIOUS!!!"
Both the Facebook page and the YouTube channel for River Otter Preppers were taken offline this week.
"WHICH IS AN VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT! THEY SAID THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE group’s views! WHAT A JOKE! THAT IS INTERNET CENSORING!!! "
The FBI issued a $5,000 reward for information leading to Winters’ arrest.
" MONEY IS NOT WORTH LOSING YOUR SOUL OVER, PEOPLE!"
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Update: The FBI said Winters turned himself in Wednesday (H/T: Biohazard23). According to the Tampa Bay Times, he was accompanied to the office with his daughter, wearing wet socks and shoes. Winters will go before a judge Wednesday afternoon. .
“It appeared, based on his condition, that he was in the woods and at some point came out,” Couvertier told the Times. "PRAY FOR Winters"
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"PEOPLE WE KNEW THESE DAYS WERE COMING!!
PRAY AND ASK YAHUAH "GOD" TO PROTECT YOU AND TO GIVE IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT TO THOSE WHO WOULD DARE ENFORCE THIS TYRANNY ON YOU!!!!!!!!!
YOU NEED TO BE A PREPPER AND THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM DOING THAT!
THE WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL IS HEATING UP!!"
